Subtleties of the calculation, or how not to overpay superfluous
Whatever the source data, any process comes to an end. In the case of construction finishing works in the cooperation between the customer and the performer becomes the acceptance of the object and the final payment. Here also are waiting for a surprise, even if there is a signed estimate for the work, and only in its absence - and even more so. A similar situation faced one of FORUMHOUSE users, and given that it is a typical, options out of it, who were looking for all the world, can be useful to many.
"Rubber" estimates
For repairs in two-bedroom apartment rented brigade advance stipulated aspects of works and complete calculation process is completed. The quality of repairs forumchanin danillo arranged, but the submitted payment by check, positioned both consumables - confused.
danillo (User FORUMHOUSE):
When they gave me the checks, I found paying about twenty spatulas, a few rules wiring Electrospray foam-chisel chisels, spanners, drill bits for wood and tile, building capacities, all reusable, and I do not necessary. Altogether thousand twenty. With the workers had agreed only on the materials, and here - the equipment that they plan to take, and believe that I have to pay like all consumables. Having a debt to a team, I decided to learn how to practice communication for the purchase of related equipment there, and that is usually paid, and that - no.
Under consumables understood the materials needed to produce a given amount of work - whether it is a square meter of plaster, for which need cement, sand and other components or finished floor square, which will include coverage - Hardware fasteners, insulation, like.
As for the positions listed forumchanin pulled by as a result of a substantial sum, users reviews were limited to the following.
qazwer1973 (FORUMHOUSE User):
Consumables - cement mix, sand, fasteners, sealants, adhesives, drill, tape, sandpaper and the like, drill - a moot point, despite what. Building capacity, Spatulas, electrical with nozzles, ladders and the like - tool. And if the team is hired on an object without the instrument - it is their problem.
However, there are some nuances, correcting the situation.
car-lover (User FORUMHOUSE):
Consumables are included in the cost of depreciation of equipment is also included in the estimate. So, of course, is wrong, for example, the full cost of the gun hanging on the customer, but as a part of the depreciation - yes.
And the attitude of consumables is opposite in large companies - they include almost all consumables.
Fruitcake (User FORUMHOUSE):
Believe me, companies usually almost everything named Default, will enter in the budget, with the exception, perhaps, ladders, guns and keys. With private traders still possible to challenge some of the positions. I for myself have long been identified - all that is inserted into the tool, sandpaper, drills and the like - consumables, and the tool must be the master.
To the calculation of these differences did not happen, even before the commencement of work must be clearly indicated all instants that considered consumables paid by the customer, and that relates to instruments. In the case of danillo, The team got burned on elementary greed.
danillo:
I'm talking about the paint, putty, plaster, grout, gloves, nazhdachku, rags and did not think to even mention, but when he saw an electric nebulizer for three thousand, I began to study more closely and noticed all rest. Yesterday once more looked all checks to the other, that is puzzling, I can add another fifty gloves. Contract looked: in the budget - is only the name of works and indicated that everything is done from customer's materials, I, basically, and purchased. In general, it is necessary to quarrel.
In addition, without significance and the level of the performers, and the amount of the contract. If there is a considerable saving on the payment of services, and you can spend on equipment.
stanspb (User FORUMHOUSE):
The case is still in the terms on which you hired them - if they are visiting, working for a thousand per day, then yes, then the whole tool - your. And if it is a team that requested from you for repair hundred, two hundred or three hundred thousand, and worked at the market Price - their problems, what tools do they do it.
There is an alternative that can satisfy both sides - to agree in advance that the money for the equipment to be purchased in the course of repair and picks up the workers upon its completion shall be reimbursed customer. A gear, which is paid as a consumable material.
In any case, the normal relationship between the principal-agent suggests a preliminary discussion of the main positions. Purchase of equipment, even the way it can in some cases be referred to consumables, must be coordinated and approved, so as not to become a complete surprise.
qazwer1973:
Any normal, adequate construction waste checked with the customer, and then buys. And it is very strange when it happens the other way around. Everything has to be either in the budget or (or in general should not be reflected, but the estimates of the coefficients laid down) for additional consumables.
And this opinion is confirmed by the customer and the professionals involved in trim.
Ivan44 (FORUMHOUSE User):
Abrasive wheels and blades, drills, bits, drill bits, rules, spatulas are consumables, no matter how much they cost. Another thing is that you can always discuss with the customer a partial payment of consumable tools, which is difficult to be attributed to one-off. The correct course of action on the order - any estimates for the tool or work at first approves (signs) the customer, and only then their gains or performing contractor, and nothing to pop up in hindsight, to be the object should not.
However, in danillo and the contract on his hands, and it prescribes only the cost of materials, and in the two-bedroom apartment managed to put two dozen spatulas and fifty gloves. Human element has not been canceled, and often are willing to cheat and get over due, in the hope of customer carelessness or ignorance of some of the subtleties. To avoid such costs not only be an estimate, but also to monitor its implementation.
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