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Most say, first make a counter-profile when making facade frames. I make a profile first. I explain why

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Greetings.

It will be about connecting frames for paneled furniture doors and about cutters for such a connection.

frame connection for facade
frame connection for facade
A set of cutters for frames. On the right is a profile. On the left is the counter-profile.
A set of cutters for frames. On the right is a profile. On the left is the counter-profile.

Most sources on the use of these cutters say that you first need to mill the counter profile. That is, the ends of the horizontal parts.

But in the book by Carol Reed "Carpentry with a router" it says that you need to start by making a profile on all parts.

photo of page 196 from Carol Reed's book "Joinery with a router"

Answer the question "Why" is not found in any of these sources. They just offer to take it for granted.

I tried to figure out what and how on my own. And what order will be correct.

The first how you can try to explain the milling of the ends first - these are chips. If they appear when milling the ends, they will be removed with the profile.

This explanation doesn't work. With the cutters that I showed in the photo at the beginning, all the parts are processed face down and when when milling the ends, chips can appear from opposite edges and the profile will remove a chip from only one sides. This means that to eliminate a chip from the other edge, the workpiece must be made wider by a few millimeters.

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It will be more reliable to cope with possible chips by using a pressure bar, so that the cutter, when exiting the part, captures this bar.

Second assumption. Maybe the ends are milled because there are fewer of them. The counter-profile is made only on the horizontal details of the facades, and the profile on all the details of the frame. (so-so guess)

Third assumption. Possibly easier to customize.

For me personally, it's easier to set up a profile.

setting up a cutter for making a profile

In this case, it is easy to determine to what depth the profile on the front side of the frame will be lowered.

finished profile view

When setting up the counterprofile first, for me personally, it is not very clear how the facade will eventually look like.

setting up the counter-profile first, it is not entirely clear to what depth to install the cutter

It seems to me that it is equally not difficult to adjust the second milling cutter according to the ready-made profiles or counter-profile.

setting up a counter profile for a ready-made profile
setting up a profile according to a ready-made profile

I tried to do the facades in one or the other order. That is, for one group of facades, I first milled a profile, and then a counter-profile. For the other, I milled the counter-profile first, and then the profile.

There is no difference during assembly and in finished facades.

As for the convenience in setting, I have already said above: it turned out to be more convenient for me to first set up and make profiles, and then mill the counter-profile.

Maybe the order is determined by other reasons, for example, in a large production, in order to optimize work, it is important to make a counter-profile first, and then a profile.

Is there a definite answer: what to do first - a profile or a counter-profile. And why.

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Alexander.

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